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The Issue of Being "Critical," and "The Christian Spirit!"

For those of you who don't know, the Adventist organization is now least trusted by its membership than in any other time of its history. It was and even is to the point where we had to witness in our quarterlies verbal calls to trust the leadership and for us to realize that they are humans. Well we quite know that they are humans, but who has criticized and faulted them for not being superhumans? If that is what they are saying: that we expect them to be superhumans, why don't we suggest a proposition to them:

Let us ask them to be just as superhumans as are the leaders of the independent ministries! What do I mean by that?

See, there is no quarrel with these independent ministries. If any of the minutest portion of apostasy is found among their organizations, they would jump upon it and stamp it out. This is in marked contrast with the denomination, and you can tell this by common sense:

We have posted here even an official statement written by the denomination against Hope International. This came after they exerted efforts, brought in their Catholic lawyers and sued the Eternal Gospel Seventh-day Adventist Church. As the denominational leaders therefore tell us that we really expect them to be superhumans, we can see where they are directing their energies. We therefore give them a simple solution that would solve the problems:

USE THE PEOPLE'S RESOURCES TO REDIRECT EFFORTS TOWARD DESTROYING THE PROBLEMS, AND NOT DESTROYING THE PEOPLE WHO POINT THEM OUT!

That way, they will be not only like the superhuman independent ministry leaders, but they will be like all the saints who have ever lived. They will be like God's church and not like a cult. Instead of this, the denomination has embarked on a media campaign to somehow redirect the minds of the people to understand that they don't know what they are talking about when they mistrust the leadership. All this effort in terms of time, talents and money that could have been used to solve the problems is always used to do this! If they can deal with independent ministry leaders and term their actions "apostasy," can they redirect their efforts and use this against those who are committing treason within the denomination? Yet in this campaign they have willingly forgotten another very simple solution to the problem:

STOP DOING THE THINGS THAT ARE CAUSING PEOPLE TO BE DISAFFECTED FROM HER!

It is amazing that only "critical" and mentally deranged people can figure this out! Was it just a few among us who witnessed strange new pastors being sent to our churches and immediately started to tell us that we must have our worship styles changed? Did we not see these pastors first start with sermons against being critical of the church? We wondered whether or not they even understood that the denomination was crying out because of members disaffecting from them and diverting their tithe to other organizations that didn't play these deceptive roles! Why then did these activities which caused all the disaffection INCREASE since there was an uproar against them, instead of decreasing?

Before that time when God's true people were being expelled in droves by those demanding change, they all paraded the idea that no one must be critical of leadership. Even when reading the media accounts of the battles taking place between the denomination and the independent ministries, the leaders of the denomination would always state that we are not to criticize the leaders, and they always did this without giving mention to any condition.

They never mentioned what leadership may have been doing to earn that distrust. They were therefore teaching for unconditional trust and obedience to the leadership.

Why is the same thing happening in state issues? The FBI, the BATF and other government agencies are constantly coming under criticism for their marked disrespect for the Constitution and even common civil laws of this land. Isn't it odd that government agencies and the media are also telling us that we must be diverse and have all kinds of different thoughts and ideas? What has been their response to citizens that distrusted them? Why was it the same as the SDA Church? The FBI and other government agencies also have been accusing disaffected citizens of being judgmental, paranoid, wierd, conspiracy theorists, and all for all, mentally deranged and wacko! In both the examples of the government and the SDA Church organization, they deceive members into not knowing nor realizing what the Judgmental and Critical Spirit really is! In BOTH cases the activities that caused the disaffection have increased without any sign of stopping. It is clear that the problems will not be solved until we expel the problems. They are therefore now using all the media in our land to condition the people into believing that the problem is those who refuse to have their system revised and changed to the Dark Ages model.

While these government agencies are telling the citizens of the United States not to be paranoid, and even ridiculing them by saying, "OH! THE BIG BAD GOVERNMENT IS OUT TO GET YA!! WATCH OUT!!" They themselves are exhibiting the greatest paranoia. Even just recently, the FBI has installed an internet surveillance device called, "Carnivore." Reports tell us that this system is even right now installed directly into internet service providers of many internet users. This device gives the FBI the ability to read EVERY EMAIL that is sent!

Of course, the FBI tells us that she will not be reading every email, but only those that are suspicious. She has said, "Trust us! We're the government!" If that were so--if what she said was true of her intentions--she would have been content with other means where she could not read every email. She has already promised us that she will not read every email, but if this is consistent with the words and promises of what also has been happening in church and in the internet discussion forums, we have merely to understand that they are going to freely and boldly read any and every email that they want! Just the fact that they told us they will not is supposed to be proof that they will, based upon experience. Privacy is indeed a things of the past.

The Carnivore system is a new system--a system that has come to fruition RIGHT IN THE MIDST OF THE GROWING CONCERN FOR INTERNET PRIVACY AS IT RELATES TO THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES AND THE GROWING DISRESPECT OF THE CONSTITUTION BY THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT! The government has adopted the General Conference philosophy that when the members distrust the leadership, they, as the leadership, must do what they can to make sure that the activities which caused the disaffection MUST INCREASE. They must re-educate the members and citizens to understand that their thinking needs to change and that they must accept what is happening: THE THINGS TAKING PLACE THAT CAUSED THE DISTRUST MUST CONTINUE AND GET WORSE!!

What is the critical spirit, and how can the influence of the truths presented be defeated without the people trying to defeat them becoming "critical" or "judgmental?" As you probably have already noticed, we have captured documents published by the Adventist Review where she freely criticizes and judges those who are exposing what she and the denomination at large are doing against the truth. When she places judgments against those who are exposing her, she leaves not one room for anyone to differ with what she has judged, and hypocritizes freely from every principle she has helped to teach the masses to adopt. How does she palm off the idea that she is not judgmental and critical while pointing directly with the criticizing finger at those who are exposing her?

The denomination as a whole always appears to affix to their judgmental documents the statement that they are not acting out of ill-will against her enemies, but is speaking out of warm Christian love. On the internet forums, we see this quite often. Strange people would emerge on discussion forums and newsgroups telling us terrible things about Ellen White, and would often both start and end their messages telling us that they are speaking out of "warm Christian love." And why must they mention this in words? It is because otherwise you would not know that's the spirit they were speaking out of. They have taught you plainly not to write documents or send posts in anywhere near the nature that they have posted: we must not write nor post anything negative or critical. But still yet, they cannot accomplish their mission if they do not condemn their enemies. Ultimately their goal is to destroy those who would expose them. They therefore can NEVER deal with their enemies by obeying their own rules against the critical and judgmental spirit.

You must remember that during the late 80s and all throughout the 90s and to this day, many have been disfellowhipped by the new leaders who are making quite a noise against the critical and judgmental spirit: a condition which is literally impossible.

How were all these people disfellowshipped without bad things being said against them? The reason is because they were not disfellowshipped without bad things being said against them: bad things WERE said against them by people who are naturally immune to every principle.

Therefore, as we and others have presented to you the dangers bearing down right upon us through Jesuit Infiltration, what has been your attitude? Do you say to yourselves, (as you have been taught):

"AW I'm not going to bother about all this Jesuit business! I am just going to concentrate on Jesus and worship the Lord! I don't have time to be worrying about Jesuits under every bush! Those who center on these things need to give it up and just realize that God is in control, and that the ship is going through!!"

What then should you think or do when you even receive sabbath school quarterlies that continue to tell you about the dangers of "unofficial publications" written by the same people who taught you how to give the same response as above? What should you do if you see ministers standing on your pulpits telling you what they do when they receive "unofficial publications" in the mail? What do you do when you even see them approaching the microphone or publishing their concerns that the apostasy just might be interrupted? We have both seen and heard from many quarters that ministers were telling congregations about "unofficial publications" and stating that when they receive such in the mail, they just throw it "into file 13" representing the garbage can. After all the sermons and periodicals telling you that you should be diverse and should think for yourselves, they weren't trying to convince you to follow their example and lose your individuality, were they?

Have you seen such ministers? If you have, have you told them that you would not be bothered about independent self-supporting ministries nor churches claiming to be Adventist, but that you will just concentrate on Christ and worship the Lord? Are you sure you have?

If you have, then you have demonstrated that you have not been thoroughly deceived by them, but that you can indeed think for yourselves and more realize what's going on and where we are headed, even though that no-care attitude is still wrong. The problem is that most people cannot realize the great independence and immunity shown by new Adventist leadership to their own principles. Most Americans cannot realize the same attributes shown by members of all branches of the government. This ignorance IS going to cost you!!

AND YES, THERE ARE GOOD LEADERS STILL IN THE ADVENTIST CHURCH. PROOF OF THIS IS THE FACT THAT IT HAS NOT FALLEN YET!! They do understand what is going on and are working to control the situation.

The Church Exercises the Judgmental and Critical Spirit Against Hope International

PART 2

As we have told you before, the common response to an expose of conspiracy and treachery within the SDA Church is an appeal to love and Christian brotherhood in as much a way as this can cover up what is done AND WHAT MUST CONTINUALLY BE DONE on the road to redirecting this "heretical institution" back to the Pope. We are therefore here endeavoring to open your eyes to the truth about the spirit of criticism and judgmentalism that the jesuits always use as a weapon to stop protest and to still yet advance their cause for the destruction of God's Church from the inside and outside:

This document was found in Adventist Review 8/13/00. It is the report dealing with the independent ministry called, "Hope International." Notice in this document that first they are going to express to you about their "concerns." I am supposed to imagine that many of you have automatic reproof for them entertaining concerns with Christ around. Beyond that, they are going to make critical judgments, and they are going to demonstrate that they don't care about diversity (as they never have really) nor what you think.

Before you proceed however, please pay careful note at the end to their calls for the independent ministries to unite with the denomination. This call is and will be the exact same call the Pope will make for the Adventist Church to unite with the global church professing Christianity in the very near future. To unite doesn't mean to just work together: IT MEANS TO SUBMIT TO THE POWER YOU ARE UNITING WITH AND TO RELINQUISH YOUR BELIEFS, CONSCIENCE AND EVEN PROPERTY AND LIVES:

Prophecy tells us about the false prophets who will league with the Beast in order to present deception the likes as had not been witnessed since time began. In our day we can understand that these false prophets will not appear all smelly with fire coming out of their noses. They will not appear as MEAN, contrary to the constant emphasis the denomination has been struggling to put to the forefront and to charge her enemies who expose her constant illegal methods and endeavors. Just to accuse Protestants of being mean is a judgmental attitude.

These false prophets will ultimately present and enforce Sunday observance to the world. When they present it, they will, as they are doing now even in the Adventist Church, present it with sweet words in adoration of Christ. After people are deceived and then dance and sing praising the Lord while keeping Sunday, the Lord is going to throw off His "Christian Spirit," and rain down hailstones upon their heads as just one of the plagues that He will send. At that time, all will know and understand that they will not dare be allowed to live throughout all of eternity with such a "MEAN" person as the Lord.

We remember well the sermons that showed the great concern against the independent ministries. Every week in our churches attacked by change we witnessed ministers quite willingly forgetting that Christ is in control. Often we heard them say from the pulpit how these "critical" independent ministries can actually destroy God's church through their criticism. Then when concerned members approached those in charge to tell them about all the apostasy that was being ignored, those same ministers told them that the church cannot be destroyed, for Christ promised that He was guiding this ship safely into port.

But yet why did they do this? Why do they always preach against criticism while making sure that they escalate the things that brought on the criticism? Was it because they knew and understood that they were doing something wrong and that they have to continue to do those wrong things in their mission? What is the sense of warning people against criticism while escalating the very things that caused the criticism?

What about the other scenario, that, while they are being encouraged to celebrate and just dance, sing, and continue their everyday business, these calamities are being orchestrated all about them, but they are being led to Christ? Their ministers teach them to just celebrate all day long, and when others, through their diversity, express the evidence demonstrating that a cataclysmic conspiracy is right upon them to betray them into the hands of Rome, these ministers come through and accuse those who are trying to open their eyes of being critical and "conspiracy theorists."

If we teach youth to just be happy and celebrate, what need they become Seventh-day Adventists and understand the prophecies? What need they know about any danger? There is no danger?!! How would knowing about the Beast and His Image lead youth to Christ? Why bring such "negative" messages upon the people? Why did the Lord Jesus Christ put such "negative" messages in the Bible that leads to people doubting their Christian experience? Why is Christ also so unchristlike and negative?

Again is the correlation to Noah's day. How can preaching about a boat, win a person to Christ? Why bring such a negative message to the people about the world being destroyed by a flood? That sounds like depressing news to me!! I hope you are able to see what is going on here. If there is danger, that danger needs to be pointed out. We are not to allow deceivers to tell us that our message is SAD. And what kind of a message do they normally bring? Are they bringing depressing news? Can they show us how to look on the bright side here? If you lived in 1929 and knew that the stock market was going to crash, what would you say to someone you revealed your findings to, who then told you that you had a negative message that was very sad and therefore must not be voiced???

Here now we see that Net NY 99 was orchestrated by Doug Batchelor. Why did he present that program when that could cause other Christians to doubt their past Christian experience? Why did Doug teach many Christians about the Beast and his Image, about the dangers of Sunday worship and all? Why did Noah preach his message and cause others to doubt their past Christian experience? Why did the Millerites do that to the Christian churches of their day?

It is so impossible to tell the truth about the conspiracy and yet not be negative, that these very fellows in board meetings and countless other situations warring against those who endeavor to warn the people demonstrate that they also are negative, critical and judgmental even when talking about good people. HOW CAN THEY DO ANYTHING ELSE? You cannot disfellowship or defeat those who disagree with you without saying bad things about and against them.

We saw pastors come into churches to quickly demand that the worship style of the church change. They then went immediately to the youth and encouraged them to dance, sing, to not worry about studying prophecy or doctrine, to have drama on the rostrum on Sabbaths, to yell out during the divine service in praise to Christ, and most notably TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY DO IT IN FRONT AND IN THE FACES OF THE OLD FOGY MEMBERS BOLDLY AND TELL THEM THAT THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT THEIR OBJECTIONS. We were given a number of experiences where such veteran members went to these pastors and begged them to stop their illegal and Catholic activities. These ministers spurned them and went among the members and officers of the church, doing whatever they can to heap as much contempt as possible upon them. But, when they, the veteran members, use more effective means at exposing these as papists, then always comes the line that we are all in this together and are brothers in Christ.

In the very near future when calamities escalate, we are going to witness this terrible desire by our papists among us to be diplomatic. They will make a very public show at calling for us to talk with them about our disaffection to their decisions about the new order our society MUST SUBMIT TO. They will often not come out and tell us that we MUST obey them: they will cover this and tell us that we MUST UNITE!! It is the same thing.

By telling us to unite, they are telling us that we must obey them and relinquish our beliefs and even civil rights. True Adventists WILL REFUSE TO TALK WITH THEM except when before honest minds that might be affected or deceived upon the issues. We have learned that lesson from history revealed through the Great Controversy and other Protestant writings. We are not to talk to such an unchanging institution that has worked also so long in the Adventist Church where talking, warning, begging, pleading, disaffection, tithe diversion, and even videos exposing what they have been doing have not even been allowed to curtail their activities. Any such talk will only in the least result in a concession of Adventist truths.

When we refuse to talk with them, they will blow this up publicly as hate and belligerence as supposedly would anyone who hates the critical spirit. A number of them will even extend their hands of friendship to many honest Adventists who refuse to submit to their popery intentionally in front of large multitudes who have been long conditioned to understand that any sweet-talking person on the subject of Christ is a genuine Christian. They will do this in public for their plans to be fulfilled.

Adventists will refuse to shake their hands, for to do so will be to declare union and agreement with them. These papists will then publicly trump up the fact that you did not shake the hand of "another Christian brother," and will do as much as they can to impress upon the world that these loyal Adventists are hate personified. They will absorb as much of the critical spirit as they can, but they will mask this by verbalizing the idea that they are speaking out of warm Christian love.

Like God's church throughout all its history since the planet was formed, the independent ministries have no problem with knowing whether or not homosexuality is wrong. In the call to unite is the call to also cause these ministries to fall into the problems the conferences have now sworn to defend. THEY ALSO MUST NOT KNOW FOR SURE WHETHER OR NOT WOMEN'S ORDINATION IS WRONG, for this new found problem is sponsored by the decision of leadership, and this is part what is causing all the dissaffection.

In the call to unite is the call also to debate about the nature of Christ and not know what is the truth about this. In the call to unite is also the call to debate about the inspiration of Ellen White: whether or not she is a take-it-or-leave-it issue for the church. In the call to unite is the call to make sure no one debates about whether or not the leaders who are movers for change in the Adventist denomination are true. In the call to unite is the call to make sure that no one debates about whether or not independent ministry leaders are evil.

In the call to unite is also the call to make sure that we never debate about the "FACT" that the new leaders can never be a take-it-or-leave-it option in the Seventh-day Adventist Church. They therefore must have a higher place than even Ellen White!

Therefore the call to unite, is the same we have been warned about in the struggles of God's people with the Antichrist. It is the same call throughout the Protestant Reformation that imperiled the lives of the Reformers. It is the call to slavery, masked as freedom. Now we are told that to be separate from the denomination and all these defended problems is to become a cult. A cult is determined by the size of the group and/or its notariety, and not by the fact that it believes the truth. A cult is determined by any group's determination to refuse to join the conspiring coalition under their pope.

Don't ever therefore believe the lie about all this concern over people being critical or judgmental. These feelings were created by papists who naturally hate Protestantism and Protestants more than anything else in the world. All our free societies were therefore started by critical people. They know this well. . .

YOU NEED TO KNOW IT!!

CONCLUSION:

But in that same light, we can say that if only the strange ones among us trained us about Christ, without bringing all the drama, the forbidden music, the church boards and political shenanigans and other things, things would be alot better off! If only they made it their business to preach about Christ without always conspiring for change and telling us what we must accept! So many other ministers before them were able to preach about Christ without coming to tell us how we must transform the structure of the church even in violation of the wills of the majority of the members!

If only the church did not hire Catholic lawyers in order to sue people who came to their own conclusions about matters and endeavored to utilize their natural diversity and civil and religious rights. The Adventist Church taught and preached the principle of diversity of thought, and how it is good to question the doctrine. She had already been warned that to promote such a thing would bear natural fruit in the very questioning of her authority. She still moved on ahead. Now she is complaining before the courts of this land while teaching others to concentrate only on Christ when they seek to stop her apostasy.

If only she did not even have criticisms of Hope International (a private self-supporting ministry) on the Adventist Review home page, as she prepares to advance to legally destroy that organization also, maybe things would be better for her. Maybe if she considered redirecting all these efforts toward solving the problems she claim are too superhuman to solve, things would be different.

It was the denomination that came out with the revolutionary and false concept that her members must have many differing ideas about everything. It is strange that some people could not understand that their talents could have been better used instead of being used to conspire against the people to weaken their resolve and disunify them with differing thoughts, ideas, and a wind of human opinion.

Remember what we told you about the issue of having "sad" messages. Remember the many prophets we will have to condemn for bringing "sad" messages, including Jeremiah, Micah, Elijah, and a host of others. To mention that a message is sad is not a disproving of that message, but it sure beats trying to prove it incorrect!

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